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Trump says FBI should investigate ‘the Jeffrey Epstein hoax’ as a criminal conspiracy against him

In an interview with Real America’s Voice, the far-right network created to host Steve Bannon’s podcast, Donald Trump said on Wednesday that the FBI should investigate what he called “the Jeffrey Epstein hoax” as part of a criminal conspiracy against him.

Trump made the comment after his host John Solomon, a partisan journalist who worked with Rudy Giuliani in 2019 to spread false rumors about Joe Biden’s anticorruption effort in Ukraine, said that he had confirmed that the FBI has opened an investigation into an alleged, decade-long criminal conspiracy to use the federal government against him.

Asked by Solomon what he thought the FBI should investigate, Trump brought up Epstein, saying that the furor over the Epstein files, along with allegations that his 2016 campaign had benefited from Russian interference, and special counsel Jack Smith’s attempt to prosecute him for attempting to overturn his 2020 election loss, were “all the same scam”.

“They could look at this Jeffrey Epstein hoax also, because that’s the same stuff, that’s all put out by Democrats,” Trump said. “And you know some of the naive Republicans fall right into line.”

Trump went on to suggest that all of the files from the federal investigation into his late friend, the convicted sex offender Epstein, should not be released because they might include false information about him planted there by his Democratic rivals.

“All they have to do is put out anything credible,” Trump said, of the justice department’s decision not to release all of the Epstein files. “But, you know, that was run by the Biden administration for four years. I can imagine what they put into files,” Trump added.

He then suggested that files from the justice department’s investigation of the notorious sex trafficker and pedophile Epstein, who was arrested and died in jail in 2019 during Trump’s first term, were somehow as likely to be fake as allegations made against him in the Steele dossier.

Trump went on to suggest that the files on Epstein were of questionable veracity because they “were run by Chris Wray and they were run by Comey”, naming the two men who served as FBI director during his first term.

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Closing summary

We will leave our live coverage of Donald Trump’s second stint in the Oval office here for the night, but will return on Thursday to keep you updated. In the meantime, here’s what happened today:

  • In an interview with Real America’s Voice, the far-right network created to host Steve Bannon’s podcast, Donald Trump said that the FBI should investigate what he called “the Jeffrey Epstein hoax” as part of a criminal conspiracy against him.

  • In a series of posts on his social media platform X, Elon Musk mocked Trump’s wild claim that files related to the federal investigation of Epstein, the late sex offender and longtime Trump friend, are “a hoax”.

  • Trump told reporters that he was “surprised” when Jerome Powell, the chairperson of the Federal Reserve, was appointed by Joe Biden. But Powell was appointed by Trump himself in 2017, before being reappointed by Biden in 2022.

  • Trump claimed that Epstein had “died three or four years ago”. But Epstein died in federal custody in 2019, when Trump was president, not during the Biden administration.

  • The Daily Show’s Jordan Klepper explained that Trump’s claims of a conspiracy makes no sense. “According to Trump, all the top Democrats got together and said: ‘Let’s create some fake files that destroy Trump’s political career’. They don’t ever use them,” Klepper said. “They let Trump get elected. Don’t use them. Let Trump get elected again. Still don’t use them. And then, once he’s the president, hope he releases the files without ever looking at them.”

  • In a lengthy Truth Social post Trump dismissed the backlash over the Epstein files as a “scam” perpetuated by Democrats and accused supporters who have called for more transparency of “doing the Democrats’ work” by buying into the “hoax”.

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